It is normal for these transmissions to slowly creep (move forward or backwards) if left unattended. I would get a K46 or K57 from Surplus Center. Are there any lawn tractors made today without the pedal drive? That alone will cost you an additional $250-$400 before you get it home. These batteries then are used to power the lawn mower just like an all electric lawn mower. Also trying to stay with a B&S engine after reading some poor reviews on the Kohler Courage series. Hi David, Yes, it is very frustrating. I have a Cub LT46 XT1 which has 22HP and I cant imagine needing to put the larger carburetor on it for more power. Sep 1, 2020 / Tufftorq vs. Hydro-gear (again) - My convo with Tufftorq - comments? It sounds like the ideal trans, but why are there so few machines that utilize it ?? A large lever on each side of the seat controls that side transmission. Cub Cadet has one in the XT2 54 inch Garden Tractor and of course the XT3 with the cast-iron driveshaft hydro. When you press on the left foot pedal you only release the v-belt between the engine and the transmission. Then the fender control Craftsman. The 27038 is a good tractor for the price. We have a manual trans mission Gt 5000. This makes them harder to use when you have a lot of garden beds and landscape features to go around. Good for maybe 100hours. The 960420182 is the equivalent tractor to the Home Depot version you are looking at. This model has the speed control on the LEFT fender. If you purchase online they offer Free delivery, an extra 5% off. Paul , is there any NEW info. Lynden Wa Yes I see that. The huge advantage of this design is it uses no belts, filters or fluids so they take less yearly maintenance. I am looking at getting the 2015 Cub Cadet XT2 GX54. From their video, it looks like it may. You can see it here: Cub Cadet Lawn Mowers XT1 Enduro Series GT 50 in. 19HP 42 in. I do not care for the decks that are cut away on top for a discharge chute . On behalf of all of the lurkers who dont post questions/comments: thank you for your dedication to helping/informing others. There are no reviews because it just runs.. To be frank, $1500 wont get you anything that will last more than a few years. Any sugestions ? Could you tell me the craftsman and John Deere and cadet equivalent to the Husqvarna TS354X? There should be less than 1/4 inch difference in height. If you have problems with the deck on your last lawn tractor this deck will be a lot better. You will have to change these belts more often than the one belt in the hydro model. To go forward push on BOTH levers. 3. A forum community dedicated to John Deere tractor owners and enthusiasts. it is getting worn. I havent been able to find much information on the HG transmission and therefore think the TT K58 is more proven. You can see the XT2 GX54 with Fabricated Deck at your local Cub Cadet dealer and you can read about it more here: XT2 GX54. We have a place with a large lawn (~ 1/2 acre) with some slope and about 2 acres (with gentle slopes) of pasture divided into a couple of paddocks that have not had grazers for years. I have a 1/3 of an acre flat but I weigh over 300 lbs, I was told that a garden tractor would carry myweight better. What do you think. I am trying to make the same decisionit seems the hydrostatic would be easier cutting the grass. I push my tractor to the limit a lot and I question myself sometimes whether or not I should tow 1000 lbs. The kit includes everything you need to swap out the transaxle, including a new seat and a new handle. Its almost new. Also for service, repairs, etc. Its a dealer only model and your local dealer may have to order one in. Paul, Ive read your review on the craftsman 20385 but on the sears site it lists the trans as a hydrostatic, not a cvt auto. This technology is beneficial because it uses less fuel to mow your lawn and is quieter than using lawn tractors with larger engines. Ive been looking at the new John Deere E160/170, although they seem to only come in 48 cut, but have read that the transmissions may be a little weak on slopes and hills. They all say 7 speed manual but also say shift on the go style as you mention above. Marlton, NJ. I sold my old lawn mower to a repair shop. I have been using an older LT2000 Craftsman with the same transmission in it as the YT3000 Model 25022. Im not really concerned about the mowing part. With the K66 Upgrade Kit you will enjoy: Nearly 2x the torque to the rear wheels. It starts and runs ok, but the transmission will no longer engage. I have Castrol Edge 5w50 in my K66 and it has been great. So they are not going to use the General Transmissions brand. Spin the rear wheels by hand. But the new gentrans in the Deere d105 are getting good reviews was just hoping this auto is similar to the Deere and not some junk knock off one. I suppose this one isnt anything special either since its at the local Rural King store? John Deere is the only brand still sticking with them. There is one other form of CVT that has the possibility of also replacing the hydrostatic transmisson. Sears just kind of fluffed us off. Instead of a variable pulley systemuses a variable disk or ball/disk system. Hi Scott, The electronic limited slip on the Cub Cadet and Husqvarna has good points and bad points. I would like to check the bolts, what is the article you are referencing in your earlier reply? The 20409 has not been made for two years. The way the RS 800 is designed it actually has a lot more torque available to the rear wheels. Now days,CVTs have now matured to the point where you find them in cars, snowmobiles, snow blowers and even heavy-duty farm tractors. The Craftsman T310 Turn Tight 24-HP-V twin 54 inch and the Craftsman T260 Turn Tight 23-HP-V twin 50 inch. I cant find any reviews and am hesitant to buy a model that I dont know anything about other than what the manufacturer says. Also take into consideration You can find people who have problems with anything particularly if you read the tractor forums. Hi Ray, A K46 inch tranny in a lawn tractor with a 42-46 inch deck is a good choice. While waiting for it to arrive I read the manual and researched the web and found that it might be the 30 amp fuse,so we found and changed it and it started right up. The good news is Cub Cadet does have two tractors that will work for you and are rugged enough to last a long time on your property. It is not a solid axle where both wheels drive at the same time. Laurie, The biggest problem with lawn tractors and hills is the transmissions. If you want a manual transmission (a real one not an inline 6 speed) youll have to go to a sub-compact tractor. One question re: transmissions. Help! Manual transmissions today do not have a clutch like a car or truck has. This type of transmission takes practice to keep the tires from digging into your lawn but with a little practice these are very easy to use. It holds up well for lawn mowing and normal yard duties like pulling a yard cart, sweeper, snow blade, etc. Randy. I wouldn't bother with upgrading to a K66 and throwing all that money in it. Also Ive read some not so great reports on the kohler courage line of engines. Any dirt, metal filings or other contaminants will greatly shorten the life of the rebuild. I have about 4 acres, flat, not too many obstacles. Been keeping my searches around the 48+ sized decks and preferably under $2500. The hydro is now slipping again, and I hesitate to spend another $800 for repairing it when the repairs only last about 5 years (the last time only 2 years). Thanks. They are tough but General Transmissions does not have one for Garden Tractors yet. A20VA46 46 in. I have a Husqvarna YTH2648TDRF with a Tuff Torq K46Cr in the back end. Thy list the 20390 as an auto. Thanks, Hi Paul, I am on the market for a new riding mower, looking at the Cub Cadet XT2 LX42 EFI. I have been using a 17.5 hp 2002 craftsman for 13 years and its main problem with the hills has been losing traction ? If you want a stronger transmission you will have to go to a Craftsman or Cub Cadet garden tractor. Shops in my area do not rebuild them due to the high labor $$. The K66 transmission upgrade kit will replace the K46 transaxle and costs approximately $1,800. Just so you know, 3 baggers on a 42-46 inch mower is wider than the tractors so its easy to catch it on trees, fences, and shrubs. 20 V-Twin HP Briggs & Stratton Automatic Gas Front-Engine 960460063 uses the automatic. Thanks so much for the helpful information. Hi Terry, I dont know. A smaller gas engine (13 hp) charges batteries. It is the only Craftsman Lawn Tractor that has the cast iron axle. the inevitable quest of how to take care of it I may need to use my push mower for some trimming. Could the transaxle handle it? The huge advantage of this design is it uses no belts, filters or fluids so they take less yearly maintenance. The old Kohler Courage V-Twins had a habit of blowing head gaskets and valve cover gaskets. Thanks for any info. FREE delivery Sun, Apr 23 on $25 of items shipped by Amazon. lower gears different gear ratios? I have a K66S. If you would like to move up to a V-Twin here is the review of the 20390. An experts opinion will definitely help narrow down the search field with so many options out there. You have to get up to the Regent to get the GT transmissions. Im wondering if they ever let him out of the back to he can see the new stuff . The problem is after about 30 minutes of use reverse seems to get week (will work on flat ground slowly), but on an uphill it wont even move backwards. Waste of money! Both of these tractors are good machines and worth the extra $150-200 you need to spend. Would you recommend it for mowing, light to medium pulling? Craftsman 20407 48 24 HP V-Twin Briggs & Stratton with TurnTight Garden Tractor. Hi Laurie, I have bad news and good news for you. Is this transmission repairable or do you suggest buying a new Lawn Mower? Im sure it doesnt have new belts, blades, tuneup, filters, or oil. The engine is shot and uses about a half quart of oil for every tank of gas I put in. You can save even more money and still have a great garden tractor with the Craftsman Pro 20445 and Craftsman Pro 20443. I have been looking at the Poulan Pro PB20A46 with the 20 HP Kohler engine and the cvt transmission. I have never heard of anyone having issues with the K46 with traction control (the one thats in the XT@ you are looking at). But there are some negative reviews that are scaring me on the 25081. Sears calls this heavy duty unit a "Premium Hydrostatic Transmission". A foot control hydro is the easiest to use. Ill be doing mostly just mowing and snow plowing. That's where I'm trying to figure out where the difference is between buying the transmission myself and swapping vs. the "upgrade kit" sold elsewhere at nearly $2k Be aware that even if you find a K66 at a reasonable price there are some additional parts that increase the price significantly. Because the transmission plays such an important role in handling speed, its also an important part of making sure that your mower has the right amount of torque to handle the most challenging backyard conditions: Lower gears might provide more tractions but can't go fast, and vice versa. Traction control and fabricated deck. Hi JD, Mowersdirect is a good reputable site. Locking differentials are becoming more common on mowers from the commercial level to the residential level and all the mowers that fall in between those two categories. If its leaving a stepped cut where one side is longer than the other, it may be a major issue with the deck (shell is bent) Look under the deck and meet the two ends of the blades. It would be, This engine is bad! Youve done your research but the 25081 does not have any reviews up yet on Sears.com. If you want you would like a V-Twin the Poulan Pro PB20VA46 Briggs 20 HP V-Twin Ready Start Pedal Control Fast Auto Drive Cutting Deck Riding Mower, 46-Inch is the same tractor with a Briggs 20 HP V-Twin. You go to ariens.com and/or gravely.com and find your local dealer. As we know and you have very well informed us, the so called 6-7 speed transmissions arent that good strength wise these days. The last time I let my lawn get out of control (an area with 1ft+ tall grass) I was still able to mow at top speed without bogging down, so it would just consume more gas by putting the larger carb on and running at the same RPM to maintain same speed. Im looking at the Craftsman T1800 (model #20376) with 42 inch deck and Koehler 20hp motor. Am looking at replacing it now. If it is still working and you have an appropriate property and tasks for it, keep using it. The K66 has 1" axles compared to the 3/4" ones on the K46. Sorry for all the questions and thank you for your time too!! At what RPM does the transaxle operate? I also would like to either pull 60 gallon sprayer or utilize 3 point version of same sprayer. All the models on this page will do the job for you. Im sure all is fine there. Do you think this mower will hold up in hilly terrain? This is the last year for it so dont wait. I replaced the belt, and purged per the instructions, but with no luck. It has the hydro lever on the fender. thx I have a large hilly yard with most inclines less than 5 degrees but a couple of areas are perhaps 20 degrees. The correct bagger is the Craftsman 19A30003799 4246 2-Bin Bagger. You went in and purchased a new car but the sales associate didnt tell you it now has a diesel and youve never have any experience with one. The owner suggested that I get an extended warranty on the d110 because some of the d110 hydrostatic transmission have experienced problems after about 2 years. 3) Replacing the Chassis. Im concerned about transmission strength without having to get a K57 or larger for basic around the property non-mowing work. A Kohler or Kawasaki engine with a CVT transmission and heavy gauge deck with mulching included would be great. Do any of the Husquvarna GT models use the K66 or heavier in their equipment? The new Kohler 7000 series dont have any issues. I hope to get the Bolens working again, however, for hauling purposes in my yard. That little Cub Cadet actually uses a transmission from a much larger tractor so in this case its over built. I would say that you will have no issues with the trans. need a 42 in cut deck , need strong trans.like to do up to 1/4 acre. Understand your description of the manual drive train and see they all use belts, but is just a matter of how they are engaged. Realistically, when youre shopping for a riding lawn mower, the transmission wont be the first factor you consider. Tuff Torqs are standard in garden and lawn tractors the riding mowers designed to pull various kinds of attachments: The names of Tuff Torqs models follow a straightforward convention: the higher the number, the greater the potential power and durability the transmission offers. Didnt find any info on your site on this one, (and thats generally not good). Changing the size of the pullies should affect rear diff speeds. Electric drive systems are found in the mowers like the Cub Cadet Zero/a>and Mean Green Products consist of batteries, electronic controllers and electric motors. Cub Cadet Hauler | There are cheap yard carts, good carts and just plain junk. Eventually, we will get goats, sheep and or cattle to keep it under control. If you burnt up the transmission in your last two yard tractors then the CVT is a better choice. Hi Randy, it is a K46 but it has the properly sized deck for that transmission. How do these 6-7 speeds compare to the say LT2000 or the K46? Yes, a few hills, pulling a little more than usual and an uneven lawn the 20391 is the better choice. Buy an older one that's heavy duty already, or buy a newer model that's heavier. @Anthony, 2014 Craftsman T2600 Model 28853X46 in Hydrostatic 19hpYard Tractor Review 540cc Single KohlerCourageTypical Price$1779.99 Item # 07120385000PCraftsman 19HP 46" KOHLER Turn Tight Hydrostatic Yard Tractor - Non CA 15" X 6" - 6", If you want a Briggs then your best mower is the 2014 Craftsman T2200 Model 20381 42 in Hydro 19hp Yard Tractor Review 540cc Single Briggs Platinum Typical Price$1499.99Item # 07120381000PCraftsman 19HP 42 Turn Tight Hydrostatic Yard Tractor Non CA 1 Acre and Above. 22 HP V-Twin Gas Hydrostatic Lawn Tractor, Craftsman 25587 42 19 HP Briggs & Stratton Fender Hydro Automatic Riding Mower. Answer (1 of 3): TuffTorque makes variations within models to satisfy the equipment manufacturers. I have determined that I need to buy a unit with a fabricated deck to get the square cut / flat faced discharge chute [no need to say why but it is a safety issue]. I have a Craftsman 19HP, Model 917.20380 42 riding mower, purchased new in 2014. But, the information you have gotten is old or doesnt apply to the CC30H. @Joe, HD has 6 different Ariens tractors this year. 2. You had to stop the tractor to change gears and most of the time you had to wiggle the tractor to move the shifter from one gear to another. Lowes sent it to their service center and the service technician advised Lowes that the transmission failed along with valve covers are leaking and belts are worn. Hello Paul, we have a 2009 Toro lawn tractor. My yard is a bit unevennot the manicured laws at Consumer Reports. I cannot find any reviews about it. Not entirely sure that these upgrades are worth $600 though. That means at least new wheels and tires and probably hubs. How long has the industry been doing this? Hi Rick, Here are two articles on the CVT in that tractor. What would be your suggestion to replace the trans? 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