dads against unfair child support

She does nothing but try to make my life miserable at every turn. Man has pull out method, her word shes on BC, a condom, or abstinence! I have to agree with you. The research indicated that fathers typically gained financially following a divorce, even though they were ordered to pay child support, and mothers typically lost financially, they had both. Meaning you will go to jail, not see your kids, and the support amount will accrue with interest while you are in jail. You and him and me are all getting screwed. Im not lonely on the holidays. Any parent making that choice of money over the other does not have the childs best interest at heart and should not be the one pulling the strings. If you have the kids 7 nights per fortnight, you're assumed to be covering 50% of their costs through direct care. All politicians out there need to read this. Find the father (usually) so he can help to financially aid the family. I got a job 2 at first, and supported myself and my child, his father as well as his family were welcome to be very involved in our childs lifeyou see its about whats in the best interest of the child not about money, figure it out its not that hard. All the data points towards it. If you say its just bevause of visitation your WRONG. Because child support is extortion. The strange thing is that in all the years I have been reading the enormous (and ever-growing) volume of statutes, rules and cases on child support/maintenance, never have I found anything that says that fathers should be treated less fairly than mothers. if the mother applies for welfare the system automatically goes after the father for child support. Maybe one day deadbeat moms will receive equal treatment, but it wont be anytime soon. I am in KS and was told by multiple lawyers that if she didnt want 50/50 then the judge wasnt going to order it even though that was the direction of the legislature. In a perfect world both parents could share custody and fulfill our rights as a good role model and loving parent but this isnt a perfect world. Why hasnt anyone made a movie about this! Money does not and should not ever come before time spent. Its more than enough for me. Even though that might seem unfair, try to think about things from your child's point of view. It was on this faithful day, i came across some comments on a website about this great Helper called Robinson.buckler , so many persons claimed that he help them to renew their relationship and bring their ex back, i had to contact him because he was my last hope. Taxman. My biological kids are so much better adjusted than my step children because of the positive relationship that their dad and I have.money has got to be taken out of the equation. Feels great doesnt it? So i called the DA office, 2 weeks of leaving a message with no response. He never offered to take or come to any of her appointments or any radiation treatments (Mon-Fri). I AgreeThe system must be changed. Using absolutes makes you look less credible as nobody all the time, nor every person is the same. I thank God for the CS system, because without it my ex would not voluntarily give me one red cent for the support of our 2 boys. Men say women are bitter, and men are just as bitter for having to pay. And make sure you request a jury at the hearing its your constitutional right. Women paying child support are the outliers. It really is a lose lose situation because if I visit less then some lady or idiot organization is going to say you dont care about your son or want to know more about him, yet if i spend more time and work less and then cant pay support then i became the stereotyped deadbeat dad so yes this system is flawed to the max. Although the mom did nothing to help him make more $. Mike indefinitely agree with you. Well, he gave me money for 3 months and has given nothing since then and doesnt even acknowledge that he should. And my 3 are the oldest. This makes the assumption that the states dont already know their laws are draconian. Thats why its not going to change because nobody does anything about it because it afends people who think your ex deserves half of your check because the government uses you as a scape goat so they dont have to pay for anything so they make you pay a ridiculous amount so that ex is satisfied and wont ask for anymore hand outs. "Judges, the bench, the bar, even lawyers, they think it's not in a guy's DNA to be a stay-at-home parent . Well thats not fair. Payments can be made by cash, check, bank transfer, direct deposit, Venmo, or Zelle. If you are wondering well does the system take from that and give it back to his child, the answer is no. If a woman can legally give her kid up for adoption and be absolved of any financial obligations to that kid why shouldnt a man be allowed to do the same?He cant because she can trick a guy into getting her pregnant, get cash and food stamps from the State AND get the state to harass, extort, threaten, and terrorize some guy into paying her under threat of garnishment, loss of rights, imprisonment etc.. No wonder your ex got himself locked up. Reform Family Law and Family Courts Tell it to my lawyer. When unpaid child support payments accumulate, this often snowballs into another issue: parental alienation. Stand up for yourself and youll be standing up for future generations. Not a chance as they will say Im fully capable of making the money I once did! My lawyer told me,Do not need child support any more. Now, on SSDI because could not work any more due to my stroke. Now Im just a stranger to my kids that gives their mother without them knowing. So if your work schedule interferes, its okay to leave the kid at Moms until it works better for you, right? You will then find that the state is the real and true DEADBEAT! They are not killing their cash cows. You will just have to represent yourself. Do some research. There are questions when you go from making $26 an hour to making $10 an hour, many dads do that intentionally to lessen the amount of child support the ex gets, usually out of bitterness. Then how much do you think your ex has to pay in additional food/rent/utilities/car/gas? so if one of the partners has been deemed unfit because they abandoned the child at the onset to someone else to raise and then 3 years later they decide since they got married to a notheer person they are ready to be a parent. I claim bankruptcy. Stop complaining, just take the corrupt corporations and government out of your lives, you dont need a corrupt corporations or government to tell you what to do with your money or kids, be responsible take good care of your kids and kick this corrupt parasites corporations and government out of your life they never going to move a finger to help you, they are always ready to screw you open your eyes fight back. But they dont care. I have another child with my wife I also need to support. Roll these words off your tongue: Child support unfairness. He paid her 735 while he was in the military he got injured in the military now he is a disabled vet and despite multiple attempts to get this amount modified they havent followed through with it for these past 10 years . Well, personal responsibility got so popular in the 90s that ol Slick Willy did a big overhaul on the welfare system. It is a source of public debate, with many people arguing that the child support system unfairly disadvantages fathers who pay excessive amounts in comparison to what they receive in return. My oldest daughter was diagnosed with Autism, FASD, and static encephalathy. She chooses to live with her parents and work a bs job collecting my money each week instead. when my son comes for the summer , his mother still wants me to pay child support and take care of him for the summer, she will only pay half on a plane ticket and thats becuase she doesnt want my son to switch planes, so she pays for a direct flight, my drive to the airport is longer then his flight home. So why bother. She also became addicted to drugs. I have like 4-5 years of this nonsense to pay. To make it worse, my daughter, was diagnosed at the age of 10 with a brain tumor and severe brain swelling. This is not to say that women are better parents. A parent should be able to see their kids if they are paying, paternity testing should be done before payment is received, if arrearages are getting high( then a caseworker should call and ask for a modification). I really find it concerning that so many women are misinformed about the way child support works. Im sure that is more important than the few hundred dollars you have to pay every month. Being she makes 60k plus over you she should be getting less and paying half the insurance. It is time to ACT. Making one family suffer so lawyers and judges can pad their pockets and the other parent can sit on their butt is criminal. The entire welfare system is designed to get them off welfare as fast as possible. I was even told to stop trying to get out of your responsibility. So please, someone tell me again how child support is unfair? 25% means you have more than one child with that person because its only 20% if you have one child. This is such a blessing for us. Obviously, she had the upper handdue to my ignorance and nativityand theres no way it would happen without a fight, if I had it to do again. I definitely agree but by that same token there are parents who are expected to pay over $1000/month to a parent who doesnt even make that to support a child. it took them 3 weeks to even decide to allow me visitation..because of her plan and how she played the victim card..i dont have the money to sue for perjury. You really know how to pick em. My ex and I have no support agreement, (not sure how we got away with that one!) It seems to work out so well for them????? He has always had the child 15 days per month and she filed as though he didnt have any overnight stays and with false income information. My kids have a roof over there head, clothes on their back, shoes on their feet, and food on their table, BECAUSE of the Lord and ME! They did make sure to take child-support out of his unemployment though. They care more about money and jailing then helping families succeed!! The system is not kind towards men. What should we be doing about these situations? Sounds like she works her butt off to give these kids a great life. Theyve received my money, and have had their parents in their lives, from day one. Trust me Ill be waiting and I will tell her the story and show her the court papers of all the fighting I did to get my visitation and all the false reports her mom made so I couldnt her like threatening to kill her, my home being unsafe, and mess a of other things. Can I pay the min $25 a week in child support and now only pay 20% of the extras? I contacted him through his email and he assured me that in two days time my boyfriend is going to leave the other girl and come back to me and it was a very great surprise to see my boyfriend coming back to me after two days. The look on the faces of the two women who accused me of being the father of their children after I revealed this was priceless. That way kids are being helped by both parents. It leads to not only frustration on their end but also a unwarranted animosity toward men. Child Support was intended as a TRANSFER OF WEALTH scam. Half of that is 55 a week. Now mind you everytime I got paid I asked her if she need money for anything. I hear you. At least you have a husband to fall back on. Go do well and quit complaining about unequal laws. He really needs to get with someone that does him the same way so he will no how it feels to be controlled. Something has to be changed it is o my making fathers to work longer hours and not have time for family. Custodial parents should be required to document actual costs of the child (day care, health care, clothing, extra curriculars etc) and there should be an equitable split of these costs between the parents (based on earning ability, education etc, not whether they want to work or not). I know because my ex-husband tried to run me up on one. What if the husband doesnt want a divorce but is forced into it anyway? This is biological. We may not be getting Ben and Jerrys, may need to cut the cable for a while, not get that new iPhone, etc. But the system was established nearly 40 years ago, and is based on outdated stereotypes that viewed Mom as a housewife and Dad as the sole breadwinner. Yes we have dead beat dads but we also have dads that try. Should you become unemployed they can order a work search and you would just need to report the jobs youre applying for and they dont charge current, as long as you follow the rules of the court. My ex-husband paid $410/month for his daughter and I often wrote that check with absolutely no problem, even when his ex was re-married to someone who made good money. I could not afford to pay the payments plus the past support. I just dont get it.. I got my kids back after about a month. Being that Ive paid half of my check for 19 years, and still cant meet the minimum paymentall of my debt is all accrued interest. Furthermore I bet the majority of the exes would try to say the other was Unfit. With all our electronic conveniences, it's easy to pay and receive child support. How about if I choose to quite my job and be a stay at home dad for my son that lives with me? Both of those parentsBOTH are responsible to financially raise those children. She was a nurse practitioner whose license had been yanked and she was looking for income. Thats what I signed up for when I had a kid. Shell have her day to pay for all the wrong shes doing. . So many flaws when it comes to child support and the extras but for some reason they make absolutely no changes! 5) If a woman wants an abortion it is up to her. Child support is about the child not a flawed or failed relationship. Take the kid, take the money. (That will both benefit the child and parents and stop these money hungry people from using children as bait) so if I have to pay 500 per month she has to pay 250 to 500 per month. They dont. Im a little confused though, you married a guy that pays child support for 2 other kids? With the gender equality movement why are men still paying support? We live in a society where women are above men. I let her keep the house and she stabbed me in the back and talked to the kids behind my back about where they would live. They NEED TO BE CHANGED or at least have these concerns be brought to light.. Well mostly what i have read is comments from men. The FEDS help the states to ensure dad pays. Hey Dan, I feel you. I am so thankful for our ability to not use our child as a weapon or greed. It matters because its disproportionate.. She loses nothing, essentially, while the fathers salary is now roughly 20k less. I feel the judicial system and the lawyers in the Northeast line each others pockets and wipe each others hands. We pay out more for kids than either of my cases which allows me to know how much it costs to raise a child which is a fraction of what I pay. I was paying $436 a month for child support. I owe it to her to help with my kids, not a big deal. Some parents dont want to be and others arent fit to be parents even though they want to be. I wasnt about to go, now my kids are over 30. My ex is 47. Freedom being not having to find childcare, being able to go out whenever or wherever they want, not dealing with teenage drama or temper tantrums, making sure the kids are respectful civilized human beings etc. Dont pay child support, well take away your license. So she wanted a divorce. Children do grow up and I have a 8 year old daughter that I would have a HARD time spending that on. As long as he is involved in there lives thats all that matters. Even though I have no children, I got one anyways. Now 6 months before their youngest turns 18 she sues is for 78,000.00 $20,000.00 is interest. The idea of stereotyping ALL fathers as deadbeats was a deliberate ploy to make the fathers the debtors, and the denigrating term was widely used. Its design results in discrimination against fathers both in terms of custody and child support. At the rate Im going Im just making it financially due to this unfairness. What do I say? Im better, No, Im better. Bruce you are right on time with this brother. So I went to school and got a job. Like can anyone tell me how a guy who doesnt pay child support, is a sex offender an is a repeated sex offender doesnt go to jail an gets out of it even admitting to the crime still gets out of it, abuses women including his mother, an his grandmother an a bunch of other women doesnt get a day in jail an the family court judge says hes still 100% fit to be around his daughther even thou he doesnt have any contact with her or even tries to, doesnt pay his child support an keeps raping women of age an under age an nothing happens to him at all. No matter what the circumstances are a parent should pay child support and the child should live a life style which they have become accustomed to. Get over it. Dont reproduce with someone who cant support a child if you dont want to have to pay back welfare, its really that simple. Isnt that a two way street. What the courts dont tell you is that it is possible under Federal law to use a private agreement for child support. WHAT DO YOU THINK ABOUT THAT. Every child needs a loving and caring mother and father, even if not together. Amen. However, any conversation with his ex would turn into I have custody, I will raise them how I want.. You need the experience and advice of strong lawyers representing men. Thats it! My daughter is with me every other weekend and about a month of extras. We deny men equal treatment. . My husband is in active therapy for his PTSD and depression and is unable to work physically.. She abused him and he was to weak to fight her then she abuses the children and now shes abusing me. I do not receive support or my daughter. I work full time and receive a $250-300 check every 2 weeks. Our child support attorneys at Pittsburgh Divorce & Family Law, LLC see incorrect and unfair child support arrangements all the time. Id have to lawyer up though to take her back to court so the judge can slap her on the wrist and tell her to play niceor have the judge tell me that the kids are old enough to have say so and cannot be forced to come to my home. I got 50-50 custody of my son at eight months old, but still have to pay her $600 a month. The child support system covers about a quarter of American children, and can provide a crucial safety net for some families. This should be the new law. But her word of mouth and a note someone wrote for her granted me to pay amln extra 542 a month on top of the base child support. The law presumes that people are incapable of determining right from wrong. Get Divorced. How does that make it a mediation if he basically says that it is unlikely. The sad reality is I began to understand why some fathers would disappear from their childs life. But, the outcome does depend on the circumstances, such as: Their income. The custodial parent doesnt have the ability to pay when on welfare, so we make them able. Taking care of the child, scheduling and taking off work to take them to doctors/dentists appointments, paying for the bills associated with these appointments, paying for school supplies, providing clothes and winter coats/shoes/haircuts, paying for extracurricular activities and taking them to practices and games, doing homework with the child, playing with them, engaging them and not dumping them at grandmas every second they get, etc etc, then yes, they are most likely the primary parent and children should reside with them solely. When 50/50 custody is in place, each parent is responsible for shared costs of living. My son will be 17 this year. She wouldnt even let me come see my daughter. I paid all my child support out of my check directly. Ross please keep everyone updated on the ages of your children when they severed ties with you and moved full time into their fathers life. Support Enforcement but no Parenting Time EnforcementIf I miss Child Support, she can contact a division of the court that immediately takes action to enforce. These are two very different things. Shame on people who complain about child support. Another stereotype feeding many of the problems with the current child support laws is that of the deadbeat dad. Should we be shocked that we are in the same position on the game board two years later? This is not an excuse I have to work to pay my rent, and buy food plus child support plus the gas to pick up my son. It is baffling how any woman could sit and complain when they are being majorly supported in almost every arena. To keep that monopoly money coming in the mother must deprive the NC parent access to maximize payments. Why is the non-custodial parent responsible for paying child support any more than the custodial parent? My baby mama was trying to get me to pay 80% of daycare and only give me visitations. She had her permit suspended for oweing a few months when we were paying it all on time until my injury. I currently pay her 1186 a month despite the fact that the court reduced my child support months ago. There have been no significant updates to Illinois Child Support Laws for 2023. I hear women I would say 97% of the time now saying they need to find a Baby daddy so they can get a new paycheck this is reality what are we going to do about this!!! What your mother is doing is illegal. My last child will graduate this year. If one parent doesnt want to work the other parent should get the kid. Not all of us men are the same. Most jobs dont pay that. A Father, fighting to be a DadJoin the fight! Just because its a law, doesnt mean its right. Jerrad Ahrens licensed in NE and IA only. I know there are genuinely some men who want their children and are great fathers, and I applaud and support them in this battle. If expenses were split down the middle evenly a child can easily be raised on much less than $1,000.00 per month if you are a good money manager. Deal with it. You have to owe several months worth of Child Support to get to the point where you cant drive your own car. Stay-at-home fathers are not always cast in the best light. But it is obvious the current laws need significant restructuring. He tried to be as involved as he was allowed. 2) Always wear your condoms when having sex. If you pay CS you are guatanteed visitation. If support needs to be extended due to them still being in school, or going to college, as some states allow support to continue for, you can call the state, and they will reinstate it for you. I quit even trying to collect in 2009. Why, if we made this change because it would be of great help to our living and financial problems we were going through. Given that much information that rent will typically be $400 dollars plus that just makes those numbers even smaller or in some cases puts you in the red and so starts the quick descent in homelessness. I am agoraphobic now. When you have been falsely labeled a deadbeat dad or mother, you dont know how us noncustodial parents feel and why we are so bitter about child support! Make better choices and have respect for your childs mother. Im in Illinois btw.. Jamie I can relate. The first year in a half they wouldnt let my daughter see her children of her days. Under child support law, child maintenance must be paid to the parent with the main day-to-day care of the child. Moms can do no wrong. Ive signed a release for my son to obtain a passport so that he may go on a cruise with his mom and her boyfriend because it was the right thing to do yet I am restricted from leaving the country or having a passport because..? Unfortunately, some parents dont take initiative to support their child but I do see that the system is flawed, I. Did you know they also charge the non-custodial parent 2.5% of the payment each time it is made? Every guys gonna do that now. Ever watch the movie fight club? I just dont understand, its your child and its only 20%. I have a lot of debt, but no regrets. Its time to demand the following: A single person can not live off of 12,000 a year. She can move on with her income, mg income and the new mans income, they like that idea. Not every divorce is by mutual choice. Sometimes we only see her once every two months). It was not my choice to vilified The rule is if you are 15min late without contacting me. It seems some are not interested in having a relationship with you, but rather just your wallet. We both decided to go out separate ways, however that doesnt mean that he has to support me . He spent a lot of time with her and helped support her financially. In total does about $125000 a year now , who knows if is more. Then she still didnt let him. The working dad (or in some cases mom..change the names per situation) gets a huge bill each month while the mother does whatever she wants with the $. This went against the court order. This process actually made me consider going back to school to practice family law just so I can advocate for fathers rights. I pay $1000/month for one child. My ex wife had no job and I had a restraining order against her for domestic voilence. Eventually she gave him the divorce and married the man she was cheating with. Your email address will not be published. Your email address will not be published. I told him i was fighting the injustice and that my income numbers had been falsified, that i could not work because of this trauma, and that i currently stayed home with our 2 7 year olds while my bf worked. I have full custody . Federal law says they cant take your passport or licenses away. She stopped letting me get my daughter giving me every excuse in the book. How typical!! He has to pick her up/drop her off at my parents house. Totally understand where youre coming from, my ex cheated on me married the man she cheated with and they live 12 hr apart, I worked in the oilfield got out to be home for my kids more and now they dont want to lower my child support I pay her over half my income and she works and lives with her parents with my kids, the system is so jacked up! So his attorney started a witholding which ended when he quit his job in 2012, and in 2013 he had convinced all three that I was evil and caused all of jis financial difficulties. We also dont degrade one another in front of our child. I pay 337.00 every 2 weeks and it will go to 400.00 every 2 weeks very soon and that is for only 1 Child. Your children with be proud of you. Best said by attorney Melanie McCulley: When a female determines she is pregnant, she has the freedom to decide if she has the maturity level to undertake the responsibilities of motherhood, if she is financially able to support a child, if she is at a place in her career to take the time to have a child, or if she has other concerns precluding her from carrying the child to term. Interesting conversation. It used to be closer to 95% of the time, so some progress has been made. We areout the door planning another activity. My ex wife took my kids and went to the other side of the country because her boyfriend (I had no idea) wanted her there. Allot of the people in this situation get Taniff and food stamps etc on to of the child support and do not want to work. We will not be hurting anymore. All us good dads want is a voice to be heard and change in this messed up system. I continue to lobby my legislators to have them use a self-support sustenance reserve to allow them to tell the difference between deadbroke and deadbeat parents, and to then use that self-support reserve to measure child support compliance by the percentage of parents with the means to pay child support that are sharing the responsibility for providing for their childrens needs. No! Now he is going to court in a few days to show why he isnt in contempt of court and our 10 month old baby may have to see her father go to jail because of this corrupt system!!! I have to save for a month to be able to take them to a movie. We all parent together and have boundaries to ensure my son can love all his parents- my kid is almost 18. This isnt a parental rights situation. They make noncustodial parents pay back welfare cost if the custodial parents go on welfare?????! CHILD SUPPORT MAY DETER UNWED FATHERS: There were a number of stories on this study. If you ask for reasonable help the state will try to help, but asking for $0 if youre able to work and help is ridiculous. Hire a lawyer. Required fields are marked *. File for modification. We should not feel criminalized because our spouses cheated on us, or villanized us, or whatever they did. Shes getting 45% of your net. The problem is too many people are employed in this scam. Hes now getting SSI benefits which cannot be garnished and my daughter is LEGALLY BLIND works a full-time job and cannot get SSDI benefits! I read all about the fees charged for everything they collect mostly fees on the support if my children get the trickle down its like 3/4 state 1/4 to kids. I dont have an issue with comtinuing payments to take care of that. The system, all of it, is corrupt from the lowest peon to the highest rank on the food chain. I havent seen my daughter in over 3 years due to the fact my ex found out I was getting married and was having a child with my wife. 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