This commit does not belong to any branch on this repository, and may belong to a fork outside of the repository. The PID I ordered came as a package with a solid state relay and a thermocouple, but that thermocouple had too big a diameter to with the Gaggia. The kit looks a lot like the one I ordered. and our This does mean that you can only fill the water tank by pulling it out. Some shops are quoting $80.00 for the PID enclosure + lid. I am glad you solved the problem, Murat. So you could measure water temp at the group head at 180 deg F with the PID set to 204 deg F. There is some interesting information here: https://coffeeforums.co.uk/topic/53319-what-temp-offset-are-you-using-with-your-pid/. . Always double-check your specific models wiring terminal layout and numbering scheme. Is it necessary to use a heat sink with the SSR installation? Hi Jeff. Gaggia Classic Pro. I have noticed after PID installation that upper cup holder tray is getting quite hot during 8-10 min warm-up, which was not the case when I was using the original GCP setup. Run two 12 volt wires from the + and terminals of the solid state relay and out the back of the Classic, again using the same slot. When I started steaming at that point thermostat never shut down the boiler because temperature did not reach to limit of thermostat. Nevertheless, it will take some time to get it and make a change of the temperature sensor. Thank you. Its one more thing to plug in, but the upside is that it would be electrically isolated from the Gaggia. Apologies for the long questions, thanks in advance! 15,00 . Ive been hearing the solenoid valve click several times while on steam mode as well, and the group head releasing steam on occasions, which also make me worry in terms of the wiring, or the parts just need replacement. I found that carefully pushing the boiler up gives better access to the thermostat, either from above, or by reaching up from below. Otherwise, it all works properly now. Double sided tape will work. 2. To do that I turned the machine upside-down. Just installed the PID kit from shades of coffee, i configured it to 93c but when i turn the brew switch on, the temp doesnt stay at the +-1 tolerance. https://photos.app.goo.gl/Xp37S3o3y6bqqrEk8 Ive tried connecting these in various combinations but the PV readout is 3 or 4. Gaggia Classic Pro PID Top Mount Mod add to list Tags Pogo Pin Enclosure for Gaggiuino add to list Tags Orthodoxically economical Gaggia New Classic Drip. When I got my C100 the thermocouple was M6, i ended up buying an m4 brass bolt drilling it out, and inserting the thermo with some glue and heatshrink on it and it works like magic added some thermal paste. I would be surprised if your water is 80 degrees coming out of the boiler with the PID set to 103, but its possible, depending on the thermocouple youre using. QB-T7100 48*24mm Programmable Digital PID Temperature Controller AC/DC 85-250V Based on several comments, the wiring varies between units, even though they are the same model. I bought the PiD from Amazon referenced in a comment above and its working fine. Auto-tuning PID cooling/heating control The biggest problem was the fact that the brew water control did not work: the SSR was never switched on by the thermocouple output. Wanted to double check here for some observations a about three months after installing the PID. https://photos.app.goo.gl/8yPwJcEPDi1c5tfY7 I think this would be the most important parameter of the build, obtaining the correct temp of the water. For the melted connector plastic, thats a sign of either a wire or a connector that is carrying too much current for its rating, or most likely, a connection between the wire and connector that is not as solid as it should be. I was originally going to go with the gaggiuino, but this PID and dimmer mod are 100x easier im trying to find out from shades why shades uses 2. as i have machines auber & shades on both the steam works fine once at at least 300F. Maybe this could serve instead of trying to find an M4 thermocouple. shades uses 2 connecting one ssr thru the other for steam. My only concern is the diagramm I downloaded from whole latte love shows different connections then what I have seen in my unit Your wiring looks right. I am only using the Rex temporarily while working on a project with a Raspberry Pi (and the cost of the Rex was only a couple dollars when ordering the SSR), otherwise I would reprint the entire enclosure with the hooks built in. Chris thank you so much. 295.00 . The PID, RTD sensor and SSR (20 Amps) are installed on Gaggia Classic Pro 2018+. Hi David. All other variables aside, once you get a temperature that gives you the results you want, you will be able to get those results again, and again. A cheap multimeter is all you need. Might be easier for most folks to buy an M4 screw, type K, thermocouple direct vs trying to get the probe version then another adapter. Rotary encoder + built-in push button; MAX31865 (SPI) Steam button; Brew button; Output. Glad you got that sorted out. Thanks. Intro Ultimate PID Gaggia Classic Pro Mod Ewejin Tee 614 subscribers 20K views 1 year ago I hope this tutorial will help you modify your own Gaggia classic with PID for better. Use the other probe to check the other two wires coming from the power socket. Thanks Jimmy. The included STL files assume you're using the exact same parts I am. Due to your kind and quick advice, I could order SSR40DA. Hi Brian. The SSR is just a fancy switch and it should only be turning on and off, so depending on how you measure you may not see current. I decided to go the do-it-yourself route, ordering the parts separately, at a fraction of the cost of the kits. I was like WTF. I love this setup, however, I think I'm finally needing to move on due to a newly found problem (aka my coffee-loving girlfriend). But Ive downloaded the wiring diagram for my machine. I hesitate to identify wires by their color, as the wire colors in the Gaggia seem to vary from year to year and from region to region. I am not surprised that the steam kit made little difference. New - Gaggia Classic Pro/2019 PID kit - 1/32DIN single display $139.33 excluding VAT View Product Information Select Your Mounting option Silver case Black case TopBox with logo TopBox with gauge hole Stock situation: Silver case : Less than ten left Black case : Last one or two!!! $399.00 + $19.99 . Hi Kraken. Also, the diagram of the controller lists SSR to connects to terminals 9 & 10. Your Gaggia would be in steam mode by default, you would never have to switch on steam mode. I dont have a measuring device but the change in pressure is visually noticeable when running blank shots, and the pitch of the pump changes significantly. This video covers initial setup of the Gaggia Classic Pro espresso machine. The two mains wires connect to terminals 1 and 2 (starting counter-clockwise from top-left). add to list. Both shades and auber use the alarm 1 & 2 though with different PIDs for steam with upper limit & lower limit. Im thinking Id like to start with just a temperature indicator, to assist with the surfing. These connectors are hard to reach, and are on very tight. Attach the solid state relay to the inside back wall of the Classic, using a small bolt and nut. From what I have read, the PID with the additional steam mode option does not improve things much. Hi Ray. robert kujawa 348 subscribers Subscribe 85K views 1 year ago In this video I'll install a PID unit on my. Individually PID control parameters Thx, From the factory, the GC has two thermostats, one for brew, which the thermocouple + PID + SSR replaces, and one for steam, which stays untouched. This is sold on amazon However I dont know if my unit is properly calibrated and/or has a proper offset. The PID works after hooking everything up. What exactly is a mains-rated wire, and where would I find one? Includes both BREW and STEAM control SSR's. Suitable for new style Gaggia Classic coffee machines usually made in 2018 or after. You should see no or very low voltage between neutral and ground, and you should see household voltage between the hot/load and ground. Or buy a machine with a built-in PID. I have found the exact PID unit which Mr Shades is using and purchased it beside the Rex C100 kit you mentioned above: Before replacing the thermostat, maybe check whether your PID and thermocouple are calibrated, before committing to buying more parts. add to list. I had no issues with the K type thermocouple. Connect one meter probe to ground (the GC chassis should always be grounded, otherwise connect to the green wire coming from the power socket at the back). . Have you written an article regarding installing a Gaggiuino mod? By the way there are three options as 12V, 24V and 85-250V DC. The REX-C100 should work out of the box, set for heating mode, with alarms disabled, and units set to Celsius. Although this is optional, it is difficult to access the power switch to tap power for the PID, and it is almost impossible to reach the thermostat without moving the boiler, and the boiler cant be moved unless the steam wand is removed. Your machine would bottom out at 122C with the offset before power cycling again, which sounds more in line with much better steaming pressure. For espresso, 9 bars is the generally preferred pressure. A couple of zip ties come in handy here. You can only buy them as spare parts. gaggia classic pro pid installation guideAUBER PID for gaggia classic proThis is a walkthrough / guide on installing an Auber pid on the gaggia classic pro. There is definitely something weird going on. Can the PID be put inside the machine or does size constraints and/or heat negate that option? The Gaggia Classic is a very capable espresso machine that gets even better with a couple of improvements. About 60cm of SiHF 2x0,5mm2 cable connecting the PID do the SSR 2. Hi Joe. About Press Copyright Contact us Creators Advertise Developers Terms Privacy Policy & Safety How YouTube works Test new features NFL Sunday Ticket Press Copyright . Contrary to the Gaggia circuit diagram, Black is live, White is neutral, a minor issue. The default target temperature on the PID will almost certainly not be correct. Also some pids come with a built in relay. This resulted in the PID not powering up even though the machine did. If you have a 12v pid could you do everything as you have done except the mains wiring and instead wire the pid directly to an old phone wall charger for power? 3. The same complexity applies to pressure control. Specifications : Never used a K type so I cant say for sure. I have changed the default value of the SL parameter to work with the RTD sensor (K thermocouple was default). So far the temp range Ive seen when the heater cycles on/off (after ~30 mins of warming up) is ~90C to ~97C. I am beginning to suspect that Gaggia created as many combinations of wiring configurations and colors as they made machines. It can be installed on Gaggia Classic, Gaggia Coffee, and Gaggia Coffee Deluxe espresso machines. There is a small copper pipe inside the boiler that draws the hot water from the top ( by design)which is quite clever but it still suffers from wild temp fluctuations intra shot even with a pid because cold water is being drawn in to replace the lost hot water for your espresso. I currently have a Gaggia Classic (non-PID mod) and a Eureka Mignon Crono w/ espresso burrs. That is indeed not normal. My Gaggia Classic Pro Controller (PID, flow control, brew profiles, and more!) I just installed the pid on my Gaggia classic Pro following your instruction guide. It appears to be from 1998 and is barely used. If you do this, secure a zip tie to the end of the sleeve inside the machine to keep it from pulling out. Please note that I'm only using the PID to control the brew temperature. I cant see why you couldnt. Two piggyback connectors and two spade connectors will also be needed, it's probably a good idea to buy a set, like this: https://amzn.to/3qOx9Rq or find a shop where you can buy those per piece.The video that turned me into a home espresso fanatic, by the ever brilliant James Hoffmann:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y1LUkfpTtu0If you don't want to go the PID way just yet, here's an excellent video how to get the most out of your Gaggia Classic Pro on The Majestic Bean Channel:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sSjkO-IQNT4Wonderful video by Damian Witoski on how to mod your XMT7100 to control two SSRs and therefore also the steaming temperature:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ewj5oXl_wk0Music credits:\"Montauk Point\" Kevin MacLeod (incompetech.com)Licensed under Creative Commons: By Attribution 4.0 Licensehttp://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/4.0/\"Perspectives\" Kevin MacLeod (incompetech.com)Licensed under Creative Commons: By Attribution 4.0 Licensehttp://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/4.0/ There was a problem preparing your codespace, please try again. P, I, d, controlling period, digital filter coefficient, and more (for control theory experts only) The PID gives you consistency. Im all for freedom of expression and creativity, but not when it might electrocute someone. This morning I pulled my first shot with the PID. Hey Chris, Do not work with the Classic plugged in. Thanks in advance! You can use the sensor reading on the PID display to know when to start steaming. I agree the ability to know exactly where the steam cycle is at is a nice convenience. The best simple info I found was a table that summarized what INCREASING each of the PID parameters would do: which I used to adjust my settings. Possibly not the optimal position but was really easy to install and I knew Id only be getting a relative indicative temperature anyway. Hi Miguel. did the REX-100 require most of the default setting to be changed or is it similar to changing like shades PID or Auber PID. I purchased an AC to AC SSR (SSR 40AA) which will stabilise steaming temperatures in much smaller margins than the original steam thermostat. Hi Jimmy. Comes with all of the accessories that originally came in the box. I am going into speculation mode here I wonder if your Gaggia came with the steam and brew thermostat positions reversed? Approach 1: Follow my writeup, adapting it to your models peculiarities, and then set the PID temperature to your preferred steam temperature. Pull the steam wand up and out of the Classic, and set it aside. Other than that mine was a fairly straightforward procedure with no trouble at all. To set the target temperature, press the 'Set' button on the front of the panel. Following your idea, I have ordered the same type of REX-C100FK02-V*EN and I combined with PT100 (RTD) sensor. 1 RELAY alarm: Normal open, capacity 250V/3A AC or 30V/3A DC gaggia_classic_pro_pid. Hi peeps, finally got all the bits n pieces to do the Pid, brew & steam mod on the gaggia, does anybody have any general instructions for putting this all together? Mains is house current. Gaggia Stainless Steel 2 Cup Filter Basket with Pin Pressurised Crema 21000491. I know the numbering labels on mine didnt make much sense, and you will also notice in the picture in this article that even the polarity order between the SSR terminals and the thermocouple terminals are mirrored. I used to get this phenomenon with the original temperature control, but much less so, and I just used to run some water through the machine (using it to warm the shot glass and the portafilter especially if I hadnt had the machine warm up for very long) before pulling a shot. Thanks, I see what you mean. Everything else (Auber and Mr Shades) includes an M4 thread on their pt100. The most I can say is these work for me, and are probably not optimum. My plan is to install the Rex C100 first using your instructions. Did you try with the SSR unit 40 DA or 40AA? https://www.aliexpress.com/item/32975122837.html?spm=a2g0s.8937460.0.0.11b02e0edh0ELd. Take your time, think it through, and be patient. I double checked all the wiring (inside and outside of the chassis) and eventually came to the conclusion that I had a faulty PID. Fortunately, no damage done, and you can easily revert your changes. Opciones de compra y productos Add-on . Maybe this will help? I agree, the PID is a gamechanger. Shall I connect it to terminal 5 or 2 of the on-off switch? D 9. Hi Chris, i noticed you used the K type thermocouple with the M4. Pull off the steam knob and disconnect the steam wand. The only way to cut it is to unplug the machine. Many Git commands accept both tag and branch names, so creating this branch may cause unexpected behavior. The pump is not wired in series with the Heating element so Im not sure what is causing this. This design is intended to be as simple as possible in terms of the installation, and requires minimal modification to the Gaggia machine. This guide explains this well, and also explains what to do if your home wiring is not correct: https://diy.stackexchange.com/questions/195229/in-a-light-switch-how-can-i-tell-if-the-black-wire-is-really-hot-and-the-white. Thanks. Would you be able to post starting values for the PID kit please? I know what I will be trying tomorrow , Hi, I start to run the steam at about 130 in the heating cycle on my setup. Does the PID generate enough heat to melt the Lego bricks? I strongly suggest checking which switch terminal switches the mains. At the amperages required to control the boiler heating element, you need an SSR that has enough mass and exposed metal to be able to attach it to a heat sink. Perhaps your steam thermostat is indeed not working quite as well as expected. Thanks. Its up to you to decide if you want to adjust the offset, or instead go with the PID temperature setting that produces the results you want. Heres how to install a PID on the Gaggia Classic Pro. But, I still get loads of steam and spray before it settles down. You could approach this two ways. The PID kit you described should work, but like the C-100 kit the I used, the included thermocouple wont fit in the Gaggia Classic. Thanks for the great guide. That would be easy enough to verify with a multimeter, to see which thermostat is active in steam mode and which one is active in brew mode. Your email address will not be published. Shall I change the P,I and D parameters manually and what is your suggestion to start with? If you really want these features, its probably time to think about upgrading your machine. Hi Chris. Hi Murat, My install went as smooth as I hoped all my wire colours and locations were identical to yours (Phewf). I will purchase the PID kit with thermocouple and SSR from aliexpress and buy these rest small items from Mr. Do you have any idea how to do? Was hoping to actually just install one of these: https://www.ebay.com.au/itm/264849127538 This approach would give you a somewhat unique machine that has a factory thermostat-controlled brew mode, and a PID-controlled steam mode. To find the neutral inside the GC, you have to test using a multimeter or voltage meter. The 103 is not a true 103, that is what is getting measured in the boiler wall, and there is also a temperature drop off between the boiler and the portafilter, so your final espresso temperature will be lower. The coffee water temperature in the boiler of a home espresso machine is originally controlled by a bi-metal thermostat, which causes a big temperature swing. This is because the switch is connecting the terminals vertically when it is turned on. MY GC does the same thing, the pump tone changes when the boiler is heating. Accuracy: 0.2% I recently added a DIY PID controller to my Gaggia Classic Pro and filmed the entire process. CONCLUSION! As for your PID always remaining on, it looks like you wired it to the unswitched mains, instead of the switched power. All of this really means that you should balance whatever temperature you end up reading against what youre tasting, because thats what matters in the end. QB-T7200 48*24mm Programmable Digital PID Temperature Controller with Built-in 5A Solid State Relay XMT7100 AC/DC85~260V. Most guides recommend connecting the SSR to the Gaggias (metal) body with some thermal paste, and this mount then serves as a heat sink. Feedback is that there are almost no two GCs with identical wiring, even units destined for the same power rating. Once you are able use the PID temperature readout to determine exactly what the steam cycle is, you know when to start steaming for more or less endless steam. You can buy them at Ace hardware for about twenty five cents each. It would be great to see how the machine is behaving without the PID, to get a baseline. Thus brewing circuit needs to be connected directly to the heating element, not over steaming circuit. 40A SSR Solid state relay included For the sake of piece of mind, I have ordered last night a K type thermocouple in order to replace the RTD P100 and close the open loop in my head about PID type and sensor. Hi David. The OLED and buttons can be secured with your favorite adhesive. Im assuming it should be fine as well to use 18 awg wire to wire the mains connections to the PID, and between the heating element and the SSR? It doesnt matter which mains terminal is connected to hot and which one is connected to neutral. You'll need the following parts, as well as basic soldering tools/skills and access to a 3D printer (if you choose to use the included .stl files). https://www.vertex-qis.co.uk/Manuals/PT100_con.pdf. Is there a way to tap into +/- 12Volts inside the GCP? + $55.24 shipping. I actually installed mine and then saw your thread, which is awesome to see other people using the same PID. Hey Chris, The thermocouple connects to terminals 6 and 7. link to the pid I purchasedhttps://www.auberins.com/index.php?main_page=product_info\u0026products_id=232#espresso #coffee #latteart #lattemy current espresso bar setupLelit BiancaIMS nano coated filter basket https://amzn.to/3dyQgZyLibra coffee scale https://amzn.to/3ps114i Tamper distributor https://amzn.to/2Q0rk52Under Cabinet stick on smart light strip https://amzn.to/2SK6cBTSmart plug (homekit, google home, Alexa) https://amzn.to/2TTwUb4Fellow Espresso Cups https://amzn.to/3zN6Izmcappuccino cups https://amzn.to/3zMU1VxGaggia classic pro setupV V V V V V V V Gaggia Classic Pro https://amzn.to/39B5coTIMS nano coated filter basket https://amzn.to/3dyQgZyTamper distributor https://amzn.to/2Q0rk52Libra coffee scale https://amzn.to/3ps114iBarista Express setupv v v v v v v v v v v v v v Breville Barista Express https://amzn.to/2FQS9E4Libra coffee scale https://amzn.to/3ps114iTamper / distributer https://amzn.to/2HmhshGBottomless portafilter https://amzn.to/3jd52prThe bottomless portafilter says 3month delivery I got mine in two weeksDosing funnel https://amzn.to/35fcqM1Knock box https://amzn.to/2KFfESEitems not to buy based on my reviews:Delonghi La Specialista Dark Horse Coffee dark roastKeurigChapters:00:00 intro00:30 opening the machine01:05 removing the boiler (optional)02:13 removing/replacing the thermostat04:39 mounting the ss relay06:48 wiring the relay10:37 wiring the pid controller 14:16 mounting the pid controller14:49 mounting the boiler back on15:11 closing the machineAFFILIATE DISCLOSURE:Some of the links used in the description will direct you to Amazon, as an Amazon Associate I earn from qualifying purchases at no additional cost to you. best part it is inexpensive and as easy as OPV mod, here are the links: Remove the thermostat. 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